Posts by Frezia

Moroi wrote:

while I do agree that a lot of stuff that is declared superior by the high-end players does bleed into the "mainstream" of the playerbase, it can in no way be expected that the majority even cares about optimization and min-maxing. not everybody will play or even want to play at the highest level and efficiency possible. yes, there will inevitably be a meta among the high-end players, but that segment of players will also be a very small percentage of the overall playerbase - the elite will always be a minority.

also, when it comes to one build performing better than another, there are so many more factors to consider other than "the damage/healing output is higher". if we go ahead using WoW as an example, three things to mind right away, if we ignore variance that a human player inevitably introduces to the equation;

1. stat weights
2. number of constant targets within an encounter
3. length of the encounter

even if I have seemingly very good gear, if it doesn't provide me the secondary stat which my build/spec primarily utilizes, my performance won't be anywhere near optimal. secondly, if a boss encounter has more than one target available most of the time - maybe twin bosses, constant stream of small adds, etc. - classes/specs/builds with good cleave or multidotting will always shine. lastly, if your class/spec/build relies on burst for high damage output, you will most likely perform better in a short encounter, or one with clear burn phases.

I understand what you mean. But I am not referring to class roles. Yes, a class may perform better at AOE than at ST. But I am talking about single scenarios, for example just ST. ( I main Frost mage in WoW, personally I care less for my class to do top AOE as long there's another DPS class in the group that has better AOE toolkit BUT not necessary the strongest AOE in the game, it will suffice. Even a lower geared MM hunter can out DPS me if i cast 15 Frostbolts with 0 procs - it happens /cries ).

Because of this DPS meter we even have those charts online with the DPS ranking. Less experienced players will just look at them and pick what they see it performs better or spec performs. Some of those people will refuse X class in a group because "hey, why should i take you when Y class can perform even better" - regardless you can finish your objective with either - after a few rejects X gets frustrated.

Stats weights: Worth mentioning? hmm.... you obviously need a minim set of gear/stats to perform a certain content. That's normal. I am talking about class performance itself, i guess.

Number of targets: i already mentioned it.

Length of the encounter: see "stats weight' -> have the gear requirement for that content and go with it. Does not matter if i do 1.700.000 dps ST and another class has 1.400.000 DPS ST. Because we don't have DPS Meter and people won't have means to compare us. Everyone is happy.

I have no problem with any other addons: for gathering, customize UI etc, but if you allow those then you have to allow the other one as well.

It's my personal opinion ,after seeing it in WoW, that on the long run it's not a healthy perk. It would not happen over night, but eventually. That's what i believe and I simply don't agree with it and there's that

Moroi wrote:

there's a bit more to it than that, though. if somebody wants to be very performance-centric while playing, why shouldn't they have the tools necessary to track and improve their progress? if that's not you, why would you mind that a spec you want to play doesn't perform the best at highest level of play? there will always be people who want to optimize all they're doing, but that doesn't mean everybody should be playing like that.

since the whole point of addons is to provide some further customization of your gameplay experience, it's honestly hard for me to see much of any inherent negatives with them. sure, if the system itself is poorly implemented, it could pose some security problems, and without a dedicated manager/installer, corrupting the game files becomes a very real possibility. but honestly the long and short of it is that addons are meant to provide you with options. if you don't want to use them, there's absolutely nothing forcing you to do so.

After a while it becomes meta. Take example Method, the guild that does 1st world kills in raids in WoW. If a comp will do 2% improvement, they will do that. It's because of the standards that the community sets on the long term. There's a reason why in WoW ranking (which has addons for ages), 2 types of healers class simply dominates (out of 6 healing classes) in Mythic dungeons. Not because you can;t adapt to the other healers playstyle/comp, but because of mid-maxing (valid for DPS classes as well). Yes, some people will still stick with what ever they want to play, but they won't feel good when they won't be accepted in a group because X spec performs % better than yours.

Sadly that's how mentality ends up in the big picture, on the long run, when you are able to analyse every small % of DPS, HPS , skills kit etc

I wish it wasn't so, but it is.

I'm all for race change. I don't want to level and gear up again when a new race for my class is released (or just because I'm in the mood to change). But class change... hell no.

Pentrep wrote:

I think the only thing people will need gold for is crafting and entry level gear, of any leveling bracket, in general. However KR prices for costumes on the AH was pretty high but from what I understand JP wasn't as bad. It was probably due to availability more than anything else.

AH prices depends on how high the population is anyway. The bigger the population > the bigger the demand > higher prices.

Neh. Addons are not 100% a good thing. Like DPS meter: Because of the mid-max /elistist mentality. Like why play a BM hunter when a MM hunter can do 200k more DPS? (WoW example). Or why bring X spec when the other spec does 200k more AOE dmg. Classes/specs being pushed aside or being forced by need (because if mid-max mentality players around them) to play a certain spec but not the one they actually enjoy. When it can be very well done with any of them if just do the mechanics right. But hey....if i can do this and save 5-10min more...why not.

Raid addons for mechanics? I seriously doubt Bless has hard content like Mythic raid in WoW. But maybe I'm wrong on that.

Namus wrote:

Its simply not possible to have perfect balance so there will always be top builds and top classes if what you want is to be the best. If you love to PvP you need to ask yourself if you want to play what you want or you want to be the best in which case you need to use currently OP class and build.

As far as class balance goes i am going to guess it is going to be worse than in JP because of this massive overhaul and no one really tested it yet except their internal testers but the game will be in early access for 6 months anyway so they will prob test it during that time

This is true. I am pretty sure there is no MMORPG that succeeded to create an actual balance in the all type of PVP: OWPVP (1vs1, Mass PVP), Battlegrounds (from 10vs10 to large scale of 100vs100), Arenas (1vs1, 2vs2, 3vs3 etc). There are so many factors. That's why many games have just some of these. Or take WoW for example: Blizz clearly stated the class balance in WoW is made around 3vs3. And the more classes and/or more builds a class have, the more harder it gets.

Purpel wrote:

"are there any people planning on starting a mexican agnostic atheist based guild when bless releases? if so can i get some information please"

I'm sorry, but the thought proces behind your question is ridiculous. Why would anyone in any guild care if you a part of the LGBT community? Do you have to be with other LGBT people? I'm really trying to understand what you were thinking.

From my perspective, what you're doing is discriminating against all guilds who aren't LGBT based.

If you want to find "company", there are LGBT based dating sites for that ;).

You are part right, since this is not a way to fight discrimination. But I'm pretty sure there are people that had personal bad experiences with discrimination. So they probably feel more secure and relaxed in a pure LGBT environment and not just looking for a dating community.

If it's similar to how it used to be in L2, then probably the first low levels of the guild are pretty fast and easy to do for expanding the numbers. Just to give a feel of progression in the game.

I am downloading the JP client right now. I wonder if there's an English guild on any of the servers on Hieron side active. Or most people are just testing things out all by themselves? Playing mmorpg alone is not my cup of tea :3

I guess I will try to be tank for the 1st time since Lupus can't be a healer. I find it the perfect opportunity being a new game and all. I know basics of tanking, but of course I won't know all bosses mechanics from the start. But in games that are already old, pugs tend to be less forgiving and expecting you to know every tactic on everything and make 0 mistakes. My husband had this exp in FFXIV and it was pretty unpleasant and discouraging (in other games he already knows is an amazing tank and a breeze to heal). So I hope in a new game things will be different at start.

BeMoe   kirill34 Thank you :3 Nice to meet you as well.

I think it needs a light source. A light source from the right side and reflecting a bit on the character would be a perfect last touch. I would totally save it as wallpaper

Most people compares Hieron/Union with the WoW Alliance/Horde. But when I look at Hieron it makes me think more of the Empire of SWTOR in a certain way looking at their "world order, world domination" mentality. And I was always an Empire person... so I guess that's where I'll go Although none of the comparisons match the ones in Bless that well.

Yes, I have never been in depth with lore in game myself, so I couldn't care less if the race and class makes sense or not . Just basic stuff to help me chose a faction for example. But I guess it brings more depth for big lore fans and role-players.

Kuzah wrote:

I'm really excited for large scale PvP. The 'capital war' (not sure of official name) looks kind of cool too. I was watching some game play footage from a JP player (no audio so BYOM, bring yo own music!).

Lineage 2 nostalgia

And about arenas, Battlegrounds etc : does the gear count in non-open world content? Or it's equalized?

Hehe it was always a pain for me in games that have classes locked on races. Picking the perfect race+class combo is always an important step for me

I usually chose elf like races, but I think they totally nailed the Pantera/Lupus design and textures. It's hard to pass on them And they seem pretty bad ass in heavy armor

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone (((o(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)o)))

Cats Thanks for the tip! Maybe I will give it a try. I have been watching a bunch of videos/threads and I am even more confused now. Since I was set on Pantera/Lupus but they can't be Paladins and Mystic won't be available on launch...I need to reconsider. Maybe trying JP will help me get a better idea of what to chose. Specially since I have nothing to play at the moment and EA feels so far It will fill the time testing basics out ｢(ﾟﾍﾟ) (I also hope maybe there's an English patch we can use for the JP version? :-S )

I hope castle sieges will be part of the early content, pretty excited about it.

Hello everyone

Been waiting for Bless for some time and when I checked what is new with it, I discovered there's a forum. Yey, better later than never

So I thought I will start with getting to know the community. I am from EU and a MMOPRG lover for around 12-13 years now. Been playing or trying many of them a long the way.

I like both PVP and PVE (as long it has at least a bit of challenge), but i mainly like PVP. I love the organised group/guild content like guild wars etc even challenging and fun raids and so on.

Right now I feel like I have nothing play (T _ T)

I have been playing WoW for some months lately but quit, bored of it totally, not even motivated to log for mythic progression. Other games are too old now to go back to or just not the right content for me. So I'm pretty excited for Bless

I played like a 2-3 days on RU a long time ago and fell in love of how beautiful the games looks. For some reason it gave me the old Lineage 2 feeling when i logged in *insert nostalgia* The races, the zones, so beautiful. And of course I can't wait to see how the combat system changed

I did not decide what class I will main. I have been main DPS almost all these years, so I will play a healer this time. New start, time for a change.

Although I have no idea if it will be Paladin or Mystic. Been watching some videos which said Paladin is main healer and Mystic is similar with AION Chanter? But can main heal as well? I need to do more research since I prefer to chose the right class from start and don't waste time leveling multiple chars.

I guess that's all from me. Nice to meet you all and I hope to find a fun guild out there

Cheers! c(＞ω＜)ゞ