"I would love to have in Bless a multi-classing system," thats why i did quit all these games :3 i hate this system even if it could be comfortable like in skyforge it was. but at least im not a fan of this system. but they could change that system between class/race combos so that every race can play any class you want- that would make me happpy to see and get aqua elfes as mystik *.*

About the multi-class system, Bless is ALREADY this way. With the same character you can have 3 assets (called CORES), each with his own unique bonuses, pro and cons and the assets are freely switchable ingame, the switch require only 5s to be made (you must do it out of combat)

It's always nice to dream ... but at this point in time I don't see either Aeria or the makers of Bless making huge, game-changing ... er, changes just to please a few people. (Even if I'd prefer they did. I mean, we all know how to make the world a better place, right?)

But to me the class-changing mechanic was always more immersion breaking than a single character per class. Why would a paladin suddenly turn into a mystic and then a 'zerker and then a mage? IC - or IG? - it makes no sense.

As for the race lock ... yeah, I'd like to see that done away with, too. But it fits the lore they've given their game so we'll just have to accept it. And grumble about it.

I do, however, like this point (SIC):



That's always been a nit-pick of mine, too.

About the gear:

I think many high level equipment sets are only available via materials, only a few are dropped by bosses (not sure about it) though getting the materials should be faster than hoping for a drop.

Also there shouldn't be any difference between the PvE and PvP equipment. I mean they have the same stats and effect or did they change this? (Not sure whether government equipment has any beneficial stats like damage against players/npcs + X% or something like that. )

About the multi-class system:

First - the only way to implement it would be like FF XVI or Skyforge - whenever you switch your weapon/class you will switch to the respective class/weapon (since the armor choice isn't class locked).
Any multi-class systems like ArcheAge where you mix different skill traits to one skill build isn't working here or more likely, you already have three sub-classes in 1 main class. Not really that the most skills are that much different from each core but some are sure very different depending on your active core skill.

Also for me - I'd like to stick with 1 main class at 1 character and make different characters for different roles but that's just me...

If I could change something it would be:

The pet system - add more boss pets to the pet/mount/servant pool and also add more effects on the pets and mounts.

The crafting system - add a little more realism (steel shield made out of steal, etc.)

More PvP engagement - add functions like bounty hunting (placed on enemy guilds, players), etc. as Government option in order to introduce more open world pvp.

Get rid of world boss instances and spawn them into the open world.

Add more weight to player actions and add more player possibilities like if you are a certain PvP Rank you have benefits like reduced travel cost, reduced NPC costs, interaction with friendly npcs, ability to highlight hot spots to friendly players (guild, raid, group)

mmogeezer wrote:

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Bryan
Fury wrote:

About
the multi-class system, Bless is ALREADY this way. With the same
character you can have 3 assets (called CORES), each with his own unique
bonuses, pro and cons and the assets are freely switchable ingame, the
switch require only 5s to be made (you must do it out of combat)

Wait, what? I missed such an important info? On Bless you can have 3 classes on the very same character? I can be, let say, a Paladin, a Mage and Beserker on the same avatar?

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Paladin has three core skills: Paladin (Tank), Priest (Healer), Judge (DD).
Paladin focuses on tanky and damage mitigation abilities whiel Priests focus on healing abilities and support and Judge focuses on dealing a little more damage than the Paladin spec but also will suffer more damage.

You won't see someone running around as Berserker, Paladin and Mage but you will see Paladins which change their skillset to Priest for example because they switch their core skills.

It's not a multi-class system like ArcheAge for example and the skills of the class only changes to to match the current Core Skill (Core aspect). A healer needs healing bless - so some Paladin skills change their effect while Priest is active (for example Self heal over time to heal over time, damage skill to heal spell, etc.).

Edit - see below

No, wait you are misunderstanding...

EACH character does have 3 CLASS cores. Each core have his specify function.

Example, the PALADIN can be an Offensive Warrior, a Healer with some DD magic spells and a OffTank (Just remember to me that the main tank is the Guardian).

You can't have an Archer on the same character that is a Paladin or whatever the class is. The classes are unique for each character BUT each one does have 3 cores with different functions (Another example is the Archer, with the core Archer Full DD/Trapper/Speed Attacker with less DD)

Er ... isn't it in open beta in Korea?

That's why it's only us dreaming to think about the things we'd like them to change in the base game.

But yes, Nito, I'd love more pet chnages. Like looting ... I hate auto loot.

I'm late to the party, but a reply to this post required more thinking

Let's see... things i would change:

Instanced world bosses:

Probably the most broken and in need of a fix feature of the game right now, it reached the point that no one ever goes there anymore, from the usual 200-400 people to 20-30 people per boss on weekends...

They are very bugged, for saying anything, their attacks are deadly if you don't avoid them and the majority of times they won't even load so you just die and don't even see what killed you or it loads when you are well dead, I wouldn't say its just for outsiders because when they do attacks like this tons of people die at the same time, koreans included.

For this they are more like a zombie fest: enter > hit > die > enter > die > enter > hit > die > enter > hit > die > enter > die > enter > die > enter > die, etc... The amount of times you can die in some of them, specially in the golem is ridiculous, and death doesn't even have consecuence, people respawns, ghot walks 10 seconds and repeat. No skill or anything required, just a bunch of zombies.

Rewards are too easy to get I guess, if you can attent every day, if not it can take a while, you can get the full set of BiS accessories in 3 weeks if you can attend at least 5 days a week, I think this is the main reason for what everyone stopped doing them now.

I don't even know from where to take this, it needs a serious revamp.

Crafting system:

-Specializations: Currently there are two only divisions, crafting skill and gathering skill, we need more ramifications like alchemy, cooking, armorcrafting, mining, gathering, etc... Currently I can level up my skill crafting thousands of potions and then use my high level crafting skill to craft high level armor that I never "learned" to craft

-Revamp a la FFXIV style: Very unlikely to happen, but as I said in the other post this system was awesome and got me very involved, crafting wasn't about pressing a button, being an alchemist felt like playing a paladin for example, you had your skills in your bar, your mana bar, your equipment, cross skills from other professions, etc.. It was a live system not only based on luck for HQ rates, you had to work in your craft to improve your chances and required thinking and reacting to different situations created by luck. With the option to fast-craft too for those who didn't want to get involved lively.

Would be nice to see at least the first point.

Class system:

-Remove the race lock, allow every race to play every class.

-Multi-class system: Why does anyone need to change their identity if they want to try another class? It's not unrealistic that our characters can master another weapon and learn another class. The way they implemented it on FFXIV is decent imo, more realistic than going to an npc that changes you from X to Y.

Every class has their weapons assigned and when you equip them you take the role of their class, doesn't mean that if you are a level 45 mage and you equip a sword you turn into a level 45 guardian, you have 0 experience with swords so you have to level up that class too, but if you equip your staff again you become a 45 mage again because you already mastered the staff.

Of course you can only change when you are not in combat it's different from having 3 cores that allow ou to sightly modify how your class behaves, this is also nice but it just allows more customization to each class, doesn't allow you to change to another class.

In the end this gives more life to the game imo, because more people ends having multiple classes, and some people even ends up having multiple characters with multiple classes on each. Also in a game like bless, that demands big guilds to be able to compete in territory dominions and then caps the guilds member limit, I would say this is even a must.

I would like to see at least the first point, the second point would be awesome but we can dream much

Combat:

-More usable skills
-More usable skills
-More usable skills

-Seriously, more usable skills, I love tab targeting games for the tactical combat they provide but seriously with 8 skills there is no room for tactical thinking or anything, there are too many must have skills for all the classes, and lots of other skills that we will never use because we simply don't have room for them in the skill bars without gimping ourselves, everyone runs around with the same stuff and it's too easy to predict what people will do once you identify their class, I want 4 or 5 full skill bars like in the classic tab target games. We need more food for thought.

-Bigger parties and raids, I still don't understand why we are capped to parties of 5 people still, we can't form bigger alleigances or raids, when the content itself encourages big raids to work together... Just imagine how nice would castra sieges be if we could have the 100 people divided into a big raid of 100 or two of 50, with proper communication, they would be awesome, much better than now that everyone runs like a chicken without head on its own.

-And for the love of god add the control+tab function to target other PC's, im getting crazy everytime I have to click on someone outside of my party to target him for a heal

-Combat in water, right when you enter water you become a dummy, can't fight or do anything but swim, in some areas like the southern peninsula is even worse because there are lakes and water through the land and its abused as a safe area to escape from pvp there, if you attack someone and he goes into the water you can't do anything, just stay there looking at him.

-Naval combat, I guess im dreaming too much?!

-Mounted combat/aerial combat (this one is more serious, see in next point).

Mount/Pet system:

-I hate when Im running in my pet and some level 20 mob hits me dismounts and you have to kill it or walk 100m to reset it and be able to mount again

-Drastically reduce the RNG out of the leveling/skill system of mounts and pets.
Make the speed and the mounting time to be the same for all of them, based on their level, and allow the people to have a chance to teach and reroll the skills/passives of a mount, by feeding other mounts with the skill desired for example,

I don't care if they make it super hard to level up or to teach a skill to your mount or pet, like having to feed your pet with another 100 or even 1000 pets per level, exagerating, but make it a linear progress so that people can truly choose the mount they want to use and instead of being forced to use the one that RNGesus decided to bless with higher stats and skills.

-Flying mounts: If they exist they need to be available to everyone in a more realistic way, not just a random drop to 2 person in one boss that spawns once a day and then they expire in 7 days, like it's now the few chosen are exploiting them and they can't be countered because no one can't reach them without another flying mount.

People stays in the air unreachable waiting until you or your mob its at low % HP and when they see it low they descent and they give the final blow to steal the loot, for this they need to be more available to everyone, you can't counter someone that you can't reach, and this directs me to the next point:

-Mounted/Aerial combat: We can't currently fight while mounted, so even if everyone had a flying mount, we would still need a way to counter that guy in the air waiting for the opportunity to ninja loot you.

If those two things can't be included I would get rid of flying mounts completely, they are awesome and i'd love to have them but with the way they work now they hurt the game more than anything.

Misc:

-Increase swimming speed

-Vehicles/ships/siege weapons

-Underwater areas?!?



And well, i'll leave it for now even though something tells me that i'm missing something


P.S. This post almost reminds me of the idea that Symeria had a few days abiut making a thread to keep a compilation of basic things and tweaks that we wanted added to the game. Dunno why he didn't open the thread yet, lazy bastard

Basic stuff that is present on every other mmo but not here like duels, auctioner, housing, options to hide headgear, option to customice appareance, option to invite people to interact with people from the guild list (invite part, add friends, etc...), and many other things that you would like.

We should probably make that list to have something to throw at Aeria when they start taking suggestions

You got me here. I'm a really HATER of Locks.

This would be good (and even a good way to earn money, by selling low priced items to allow that, or give a really expensive item to buy ingame), but would require a lot of recoding...

I comes from DAOC and L2 where you WERE FORCED to use at least a minimum of 4 skill bars (12 skills each) to a max of 8 skill bars, depending on the class. It's NEVER a good idea to overdoing the required skills to play, but it's even a bad idea give excessivelly low skills ammount. I think that a max of 12 skills (and LEAVE OUT the auto attack to be a skill, it should be a basic function, not a skill... who's the idiot that made the auto attack be a skill instead of a basic function???) and 12 items at max (let's be clear... F1-F12 and 1-to letters from the keyboard) are pretty ok to me...

Ahye... you make me cry a lot... in sadness.... i comes from DAOC and L2 (i know i repeat that a lot...) where there was party of 8 and 9 players... to me mmorpg are games that MUST have party made by a max of 10 players... not 5... or 6.. aren't those MASSIVE games? Why limit the party system to just 5-6 players? I never understand that...

ALSO, another good thing is the possibility to LINK parties togheter (like DAOC and... cough.. i'm feeling sick saying it but... the goddamn poisonus WoW).

If i remember correctly there are ALREADY siege weapons in develop... i can't remember when they said it.. but i'm sure to remember well that there will be siege weapons